458 socom, 600 grain subsonic 458 socom, 600 grain subsonic
The .458 SOCOM achieves optimum ballistic performance in barrel lengths shorter than 16 so there is no need for longer, less portable barrels. Additionally, The Lancer 20 round 5.56 magazine holds seven SOCOM rounds and the 30 round 5.56 magazine will hold nine. I've shot the 100gr Lehigh bullets, and the 255gr with pretty good accuracy as well (the 255gr sub MOA at 100 yds). and 30.0 gr. All were rimmed or headspaced on the case mouth. for ~1,700-1,800 fps category), (note: Matts Bullets makes a 365 Grain Lead, Round Flat Nose + Gas Check(.458) that should be experimented with if the flat nose does not create afeed problem). After a lot of research and discussion, I have come to the conclusion that there's no case easily converted to do what I want. I am beginning to wonder if they are becoming unstable after 75 yards. I think Brux barrels can make you a barrel in whatever twist you want. A master gunsmith, Patrick is also Handguns Editor for Guns & Ammo magazine. http://www.bing.com/search?q=nuke50&7ADE&FORM=QBLH, Vintage Boxes - Gear, Shell, Case, Primer, Group Buys Design, Active , Waiting and Archives, Closed Buys/Waiting for delivery/in shipment, If this is your first visit, be sure to Please do not contact us and ask for tracking numbers or when will my ammo ship? (Thanks to Wikipediafor above paragraphs), (Note: Many are near maximum loads, you should use 10% less to start. A coupla guys are interested - especially a good starting velocity if subsonic needs too fast a barrel twist. lbf). 500 grain 458 hollow point with cut jacket. 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The thump is impressive. Item 47CandItem 47D will cleanly take big game animals weighing over 2,000 lbs. Bullets are seated out too far for revolver use. The SOCOM is also capable of launching 500- 600 grain bullets at subsonic velocities for suppressed or tactical use. Our extensive testing has found the Lancer L5 AWM magazine to be optimal for this round. by Wicked Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:05 pm, Post Your email address will not be published. The 458 SOCOM cartridge offers the practical ballistics of the legendary .45-70 in a modern AR platform rifle and is capable of firing 250 to 600 grain .458 caliber bullets in a lightweight, controllable package. Overall Length) is 2.25 and some bullets are just too long to meet that COAL limit. DONATE. Minor machining has also been performed to the ejection port opening of the upper receiver to allow clearance for the larger cartridge. Unfortunately, no. 20ga shell for comparison. A 600-grain JSP (which has no hope whatsoever of expanding, just to be clear) in the subsonic velocity region becomes an entertaining range time. by Bendersquint Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:15 am, Post For hunting medium to large game, bullets in the 250 grain- 400 grain weight range possess devastating killing power. The bullet is designed to perform optimally at subsonic velocities to ranges of 100 + yds with upto 3X expansion and nearly 100% weight retention. by Wicked Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:11 am, Post Test Barrel: TROMIX 16" 1:14. I have a 16" 458 put together now and have a SBR 458 I am almost finished with. JHP (High Power) 160rds $ 331.99 special operations community regarding the apparent lack of effectiveness of the 5.56 x 45 The Lancer 20 round 5.56 magazine holds seven SOCOM rounds and the 30 round 5.56 magazine will hold nine. If there is a video project you want me to do, feel free to let me know in the discussion, comments, or by email. We dual diametered the shank which allows the bullet seatingcloser tomagazine length. the unsubscribe link (where available) in one of our messages. Please check local laws before ordering. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Summers reach up to 105 degrees F and winters are generally mid 50's day and 30's night does get colder at times. They may not work the action of the upper rifle, but youcan work up in .2 grain increments to find what is best. I developed a load in my 458 socom with this projectile going 1025 fps. It was shown as effective in terms of ballistics, firing a 500 grainbullet subsonically, but not ideally suited for its role due to the size andweight of the platform. A 600-grain JSP (which has no hope whatsoever of expanding, just to be clear) in the subsonic velocity region becomes an entertaining range time. SBR uses an ogive profile on this FMJ for flawless feeding and function, making this round ideal for training, zeroing optics, or breaking in your new 458 SOCOM weapon. by Valar Morghulis Sat Apr 16, 2011 4:04 am, Post SBR is the leading manufacturer of factory loaded 458 SOCOM, and they continue the R&D on CIP in Europe. Of course, all of these other cases soon outperform the .458 SOCOM as bullet weights get heavier since they have. Youcan back off loads. In my 16 inch Wilson Combat AR, the average velocity was 1,115 fps. You can unsubscribe at any time by replying STOP or clicking In Stock. So, they chose the .458-inch bullet diameter. Now, that last part is a bit more, shall we say, variable, than the others. Until things straighten out in our government and society, we will have to streamline our customer service in order to serve all customers. And whatever youre shooting at gets thumpedhard. First designs used the 8 x 68 S case, as it shares the rim diameter of the .50AE and is non-rebated. It was developed by Marty ter Weeme, founder of Teppo Jutsu LLC in 2000. (Yes, Virginia, ammo used to be cheap enough that you could wear out a barrel just by shooting.) Learn how your comment data is processed. Its the standard rim diameter of the .30-06 family of cartridges, along with the 8mm Mauser and such. Product Overview. Grab a scope out of the scope drawer, in its mount, and put on top. The 458 SOCOM cartridge offers the practical ballistics of the legendary .45-70 in a modern AR platform rifle and is capable of firing 250 to 600 grain .458 caliber bullets in a lightweight, controllable package. 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Pistol Loads | Rifle Loads | How to Reload | Reloading Gear | Contact, Pistol Loads | Rifle Loads | How to ReloadReloading Gear | Contact, Pistol LoadsRifle LoadsHow to ReloadReloading GearContact, Copyright 2023 Reload Ammo Built with by Edward KadoPrivacy Policy | Cookie Policy | Terms of Service | Amazon Affiliate Disclosure, Copyright 2023Reload AmmoBuilt with by Edward KadoPrivacy PolicyCookie PolicyTerms of ServiceAmazon Affiliate Disclosure. I'm starting to get motivated now. Please go to Appearance > Sidebars and drag a widget into User Submit Sidebar. I am going to open up one of the sizers to .459 or so and see if it makes a difference. Sub MOA to 75 yards and then something strange is going on. Where the .458 SOCOM gets to be giddy fun is when you go with heavyweight subsonics. So, please do not email and ask if items are in stock. Thanks for the speedy reply. It gets really interesting when you opt for the real heavyweights. But, I did discover that something that fits the bill perfectly already exists, it's just not a .50, it's the 458 Socom. I'll live with shooting 582gr bullets instead of 750's. Patrick Sweeney is the author of many of Gun Digest books' best-selling titles, including Gun Digest Book of the 1911, Vols. The 458 SOCOM (aka: 11.5x40mm RB) is a large caliber cartridge designed for use on the AR15/M4 platform. No. Make sure to use the correct ammunition in your gun. I LOVE the 458 Socom round, it is the most fun round I own to shoot. The nose is an open tip design. There's plenty of other choices in lighter super sonic weights for hunting though. Today, we are the leading manufacturer of factory loaded 458 SOCOM with over 22 different loads available. This is achieved with a muzzle velocity 1050 fps. The next step was to decide how much of a case neck to provide and what kind of case capacity, all while keeping one idea in mind: It had to hit like the news of an impending IRS audit. Our hunting loads for. The 300-grain round offers a muzzle velocity 1,900 fps. The 458 SOCOM uses a large pistol by Wicked Tue Mar 08, 2011 2:07 pm, Post 458 SOCOM SUBSONIC HUNTING & SNIPING AMMO 500 gr. Well, actuallyyou might want some. Last I looked, factory ammo is running $50+ for 20 rounds. Well, Marty Ter Weeme was at a backyard barbecue a couple of decades ago with some guys who cant put on their rsums where theyve been and what theyve done. I grabbed a Brownells barrel and bolt off the shelf and looked for build candidates. Ammunition must ship UPS ground. UPC #: 816874023324. The industry standard 1-14 twist barrels seem to be the best choice for over 350 grain bullets and/or subsonic loads and will shoot all suitable bullet weights acceptably well. The likely candidate that was up in the rotation was a Hi-Lux 1-4 in a LaRue QD mount. Details. And magazines are simple: You use regular AR mags. Message and data rates may apply. Game animals. Item 47F----1075 fpsItem 47G----1115 fps, Item47G - Exterior Ballistics Charts for several Muzzle Velocities. by Wicked Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:48 am, Post The 1-22 twist rate is an absolute tack driver with 250gr 325gr bullets commonly used for hunting and is the optimum choice for the Barnes 300gr TAC TX/TTSX SOCOM bullet. Frank Melloni. News, Rifles, Semi-Auto Rifles, Ammunition. The impetus was an informal ("beer and barbeque") discussion with a senior member of the US The question arose because those present had experience at shooting people and werent entirely happy with the results they were getting from the M855. History Inspired by a supposed lack of power offered by the 5.56 NATO cartridge used in the M4 and the M16, the .458 SOCOM came about from informal The 458 SOCOM cartridge offers the practical ballistics of the legendary .45-70 in a modern AR platform rifle and is capable of firing 250 to 600 grain .458 caliber bullets in a lightweight, controllable package. If youd like to change an order, we can no longer do that till things slow down, so simply place another order for more product, but PLEASE, NO MORE CHANGES after the fact! With this load, unlike our other sub-sonic load, I had to adjust my gas port to get the action to reliably cycle. PacNor will do a .458 barrel in a 6 groove 1:8 or an 8 groove 1:10. 500 gr shortened version 600 gr MOAB bullet mold without crimp groove, I love guns, tacos, and lead. As nightfall does not come all at once, neither does oppression. OK, big deal. The cartridges considered were7.6239mm M43, 939mm Grom, .45 Professional (which has since become the .450Bushmaster), and .50 Action Express. Red Dot and Green Dot because at max chamber pressure, they yield velocities below your desired 1050 fps. force led to the request to develop a new cartridge that would deliver far more energy from short by Wicked Tue Mar 08, 2011 1:52 pm, Post Next up, the case. Our hunting loads for medium-sized game (Item 47A andItem 47B) will hammer deer, medium sized hogs and bear with aplomb. Your ammo will arrive at the same time if you track it or not and will certainly arrive later if we are swamped answering questions instead of getting orders shipped. Building the .458 SOCOM takes only two caliber specific parts-a .458 specific bolt and barrel- Wilson Combat is further optimizing their .458 SOCOM rifles by adding an adjustable gas block, extra power action spring and straight gas tube as a standard reliability upgrade. Based on the favorable reviews, commercial production was started and the initial rifles were produced by Tromix. This releases the four segmented mini cores into a radial pattern around the main projectile giving a MASSIVE wound. Wanted to try the 500g expanding hollow point Outlaw State bullets . Great penetration and expansion. Using Outlaw State Bullets 530 grain projectiles I hope to make a quiet subsonic, yet powerful, short range deer/pig HAMMER..458 SUBSONIC - Outlaw State Bullets LLC Strictly big bore. That 458 SOCOM 350 GR JSP 20 RDS. "will a 1:14 twist 458 SOCOM barrel afford me the flexibility to shoot lighter bullets (250 - 400 grain) as well as heavier bullets (500 - 600 grain) without sacrificing reliability, safety and/or accuracy? twist is 1/14. If our web site allows you to order any item, that means it is in stockWE DO NOT TAKE ORDERS FOR ITEMS WE DO NOT HAVE! HOW WILL THIS (name any) AMMO FEED AND FUNCTION IN MY GUN? The cartridge itself is a powerhouse and was developed specifically to take down large, dangerous game, while still being usable from the M4/AR15 platform (a unique upper receiver would be needed). After the design was completed, Tony Rumore of Tromix Due to different barrel lengths, type of bullet,seating depth, primer type and other factors, you may not get near the FPScharted. Thank you for your understanding. Also, in late 2020, the CIP Committee reached out to SBR about the 458 SOCOM, and in November 2021 the 458 SOCOM was CIP approved. This site uses cookies to improve your experience. An accurate bullet with the 458 SOCOM ogive profile makes for flawless functioning. When fired at these relatively low sub-sonic velocities, this bullet will not expand, but will act as a solid and will penetrate deeply. In Stock. by Wicked Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:24 pm, Post by johndoe3 Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:44 am, Post Out of Stock. Both had been designed to fire the heavy (500 - 600 gr.) I am only considering the .458 Socom because it uses a shoulder, and these heavy bullets. . chamber pressure and still fall within bolt thrust limits. Due to safety considerations and legal/regulatory reasons, Ammunition may not be returned. Today, we are the leading manufacturer of factory loaded 458 SOCOM with over 22 different loads available. The .458 SOCOM achieves optimum ballistic performance in barrel lengths shorter than 16 so there is no need for longer, less portable barrels. The base of the bullet is a rebated boattail design. by Wicked Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:09 pm, Post